TressesOfNephthys wrote:


Well ladies, I think this has turned into a very good discussion [not that it wasn't before]. We must face all things in life to grow. That's why I see many in religion and the metaphysical arena who stay where they're at. Again, as you have said, it is a choice. That is the journey they must take to one day grow, either in this life, or a future one.

Growth comes with self knowledge, not listening and taking as truth what others say. What a great discussion!

here comes another related question:
What about the dark stick figured entities? Very experienced and well respected Psychics and paranormal investigators are scared of them. Anyone experience these?

Can I just say what a great thread this has been and what a shining example of people being able to voice their opinions, be respected by others and have a good discussion/debate.

It's the main reason I follow this site

channelpirate wrote:


It's people like you Channel that make the site what it is. Keep the great posts coming.

Undertaker isn't kidding here. Leave it to the true professionals.

Bravo. I am starting to run into those who are skeptics in my offline life. I am not going ot hide who I am, Wiccan, psychic, sensitive or anything else. Accpet me for who I am or I don't need you in my life.

I have been told that in almost every genuine case of demonic activity a typical paranormal team will get nothing in early stages of infestation or oppression - obsession. As the stages of demonic infestation progress they will probably get just enough activity to be tricked into believing the site is active but nothing to worry about. Only in the later stages will something more malevolent be suspected and then only by someone who is really very familiar with the case and observes the progression of it or who has experience in demonology. Do you agree?

Has anyone picked up evidence of any of the names below?
Before listing the names I just want to be proactive and post this prayer:
Saint Michael the Archangel,defend us in battle; be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray:and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Belial Beelzebub Lilith Asmodeus Satan Azazel Lucifer Succubus Astaroth

Lilith, Azazel and Succubus.... though the last is usually used as a term for a type, not a specific entity in my experiences....

Succubus is a female demon appearing in dreams who takes the form of a human woman

The Jews regarded Lilith as evil. According to Jewish folklore, Lilith was forced by three angels to swear she would not harm mothers and children that wore amulets having the names of those three angels (Sanvi, Sansanvi, and Semangelaf).

Astaroth (also Ashtaroth, Astarot, and Asteroth), in demonology, is a Crowned Prince of Hell. He is a male figure named after the Canaanite goddess Ashtoreth.

Eclecticdealer wrote:


How are ya today Eclectic? Hope things are going well for you today. Regarding demonology, I have to say that personally, since I've not encountered anything really [had an investigation with Crystal a few months ago where the was a strong dark entity] regarding demons, I don't have much knowledge on the subject. I will have to agree to disagree with those that use the terms "professional" and "expert" because, like the paranormal; I don't believe for a second that either title/position exists.

Regarding the names you listed, it is my most humble opinion that at least the demons of Beelzebub, Satan, and Lucifer do not exist at all. I can say that due in part to my long history in the church. Satan only means "adversary". In Judaism, it is known as Ha Satan [the adversary]. If I didn't get along with someone in my line of work and we were competitors, I could refer to them as "satan" and would be correct by definition. Lucifer is used in the Christian bibles; in the Tanach [Jewish Version], which came before the time of the church, Isaiah Chapter 14 and verse 12 call him "morning star". Beelzebub, the same. What I'm getting at and I think that someone touched on it a while back [sorry CP if I'm wrong and you didn't] is that these figures are created by man. I don't believe in a book that lists demons either. You can write a book after studying historical accounts and apply that info to other things that you've read and it STILL doesn't mean that you have accurate infomation. Remember this: “History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren’t there.” - George Santayana, American philosopher (1863-1952)

This all of course is my opinion. But as such, I'm in the same boat as everyone else; I'm entitled to my own opinion, but not my own facts. Just my 2 cents.