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TOPIC: Light 4

Re: Light 4 13 years, 2 months ago #11

Depth of field is really hard to determine in any one shot particular with IR in low light as the camera has less data (light spectrurm) to work with. That is why people think the orbs they are capturing are across the room instead of an inch from the camera.

Also keep in mind that any motion activated camera has a measurable delay. Whatever type of sensor calculation is made (whether it is thermal or percent of image change) and then the shutter is snapped. I know from having my trap camera trigger on bats that often they are well out of frame before the camera takes the shot. An insect that triggers it would easily have time to flutter inches to feet further away from the camera.

For that matter something paranormal could have very well triggered the camera but all that was captured in frame was an innocent passing insect or two.

But here is how I look at things like this in my own data. Which is more likely? That I was lucky enough to capture the rare recorded parnormal event on camera or that a bug was at the right place at the right time.

Re: Light 4 13 years, 2 months ago #12

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It's interesting how people perceive things differently. To me it looks like it's close to the grill on the other end of the room. I was also surprised to see that it doesn't provide EXIF data.

Wes, I like your "rule of thumb" for this. That being said, I'm not trying to capture anything paranormal, I simply became very intrigued when I started seeing these shots. On one hand, it would be very cool to actually capture something like that, on the other hand, I'm not sure how excited I would be at the thoughts of it being in my home.

Isn't there some way to be able to tell or at least create more of a controlled environment, so that you would have a way of knowing what the more likely scenario is?

Re: Light 4 13 years, 2 months ago #13

Simple...gather more data with different equipment.

Since your camera is catching still shots and still shots are the easiest thing for all of us to misinterpret (one moment in time...no moment by moment comparison) set up a night vision camcorder in the area.

Video is much easier to "debunk". Other than people not understanding that the IR emitter is close to the lens and will create orbs just like a flash camera they make recogizing things like lens flare and insects ("look it flutters") much easier.

Beg, borrow or steal a Sony Night Shot...set it up at the time of night these anomalies seem to be occuring the most...hit record and see what happens. If available use a supplemental IR light as the one's built into the cameras sorta suck.

Even a regular camcorder would work for this purpose. If the motion detect camera captures something but the camcorder doesn't that means it was something reflecting the IR and not emitting its own light.

Re: Light 4 13 years, 2 months ago #14

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Attachment1: Light is at bottom right
Attachment2: Light is at the top, a bit left of center

So I changed the camera angle a little a few days ago, just to rule that out and got nothing for a few days. In fact, I hardly had any motion detection go off. Last night however, it again caught something. Of course, it's probably bugs flying around, but I gotta say, the time that these occur is very consistent. Why am I never getting these shots at midnight or 4 am. They are always between around 1 and 3:30am.

Also on a side note. Look at pic1 as compared to the pic in the OP in this thread. We were talking about how to me it looks like that one is towards the back of the room, and to iburyem it looked like it was in the foreground. Now looking at pic1 here, it is obvious in this shot that it's in the foreground and in contrast to the other, makes it look like it is in the back of the room.

I'm looking for a way to setup a recording so I can get a vid. Hopefully this will answer some questions once and for all.
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