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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #31

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I look at this photo every once in a while, for being an older cell phone, its resolution is too crisp imo.. also looking at the way the light is shinning in the windows and the angles, I think there would be a pronounced shadow a head of the subject slightly on the wall, substantially darker than than what i am seeing as .. it appears pretty dense in a lot of areas, and that would block light.

It also looks too smooth to me, as in too perfect.. it looks like an airbrush to me.
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #32

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first of all.... i think i have seen this picture before.... somwhere.... and second... It looks like computer made drawing... so... i think this isn't real ghost captured...
“Ghosts have a way of misleading you; they can make your thoughts as heavy as branches after a storm.”
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #33

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Attachment debunked.psd not found


I know you believe in your client. Maybe they are testing you. But I think this may be faked... take a look here


ghostappimage.jpg


I grabbed this image here play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co...h.GhostCam&hl=en

When Lucas mentioned he'd seen it somewhere before...I decided to do some searching on mobile photo apps.

Now I pulled it into Photoshop, did a side by side comparison then cropped the mobile app image added contrast and brightness to mimic your photo as close as possible.


Debunked.jpg


I attached the psd as well


Attachment debunked.psd not found



You be the judge....
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #34

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wont let me attach psd sorry
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #35

Good catch Moonie
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #36

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exactly what I suspected!
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #37

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I watched this thread because I just felt the image was off and something was familiar about it. Then Lucas said he seen it somewhere else. So I thought on it and remembered what crystalcross said....

crystalcross wrote:
Here's my take on this image.

The first sign of an issue is that there is absolutely no EXIF data. That usually shoots up a red flag. Almost every camera known to man adds EXIF data to a picture. And many image manipulation programs will strip it out. So that sends up an immediate red flag.

So then taking the image under a bit closer look.

  1. Look where the hand is, you can see the clear feathered crop line around the hand. It almost makes it look like its holding a ball.
  2. Notice the direction of the light source on the figure. Its not consistent with any of the light cues in the image itself. The figure shows the light coming from the front near the camera, almost as if a flash was used. But in the room you can see no signs of a flash. And the majority of the light is from the right and back.
  3. Finally, notice that the sizing and aspect of the figure would indicate that its located somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd row's of chairs or perhaps even 1st and 2nd. However towards the bottom the fade of the figure overlways even the first row of chairs. That's an inconsistent visual cue.


Because of all these, I would not treat this as a evidencial photograph.


and I though its a photo app...on of those fake ghost ones,,when you use an already existing photo and edit it in the app I believe it strips the data out as well. So I tested it and it does.

I downloaded the app and applied it both ways the app allows you to and neither way gives EXIF data.

added to already taken photo

IMAG0199.jpg


ghost image taken with photo


IMG_20120602_200323.jpg
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #38

Awesome work Moonie! Nice!

Glad to have another photoshop person on here!
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Re: Dealership - Buffalo, NY 13 years, 5 months ago #39

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tnx Moonie.... you just confirmed what I thought.... I'm sure now that I've seen both pictures before
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